Telecaster S1 Switch Wiring Diagram
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Noisy Baja Telecaster (again...)
- Thread starter stephanar
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![stephanar](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/137/137440.jpg?1466737126)
- #1
I have strats here and the noise lvl on the tele is definitely higher.
Some people say s1 is the culprit, other say its the wiring, people change it completely with mixed results.
I'm thinking about going with a new wiring harness with a 4 way switch (without s1) + copper shielding under pickups and control cavity. Think it can't get better than that, but if it won't work there's no purpose to spend this money.
What you guys say?
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- #2
![Salfordlad](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/173/173447.jpg?1545263214)
- #3
This is the harness I bought from him...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tele-Premi...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
![metrokosmiko](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/182/182625.jpg?1536087335)
- #4
Also it might just be the pickups.
- #5
![jvin248](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/173/173288.jpg?1453220192)
- #6
Low impact test ... get the kitchen tin foil and some tape and tape a sheet across the outside of the guitar like a big pickguard, cover both pickups. tape a strip to the outside of the output cord housing so you know it's grounded. Use an ohm meter to make sure it's grounded. You can tape one across the back and connect the two. See if that quiets your noise level.
Where I start:
-Replace the two wires from the volume pot to the jack with shielded cable.
-Use Nashua Aluminum Flashing tape ($7/roll at the hardware store, will shield two dozen guitars) and cover the back of the pickguard and the cavities, leaving tabs out for connections with the pickguard and check continuity with the ohm meter as you go.
Check your 4-way switch has the 'extra noise reduction jumper' on it that was identified on the old Phostenix wiring diagram.
If still noisy, I'd be suspicious of the S-1 and proceed with your plan to lift out the factory circuit intact and then replace the whole works with new parts and wiring. That way you can replace the factory stuff any time you want, if you were to sell the guitar someday.
![Salfordlad](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/173/173447.jpg?1545263214)
- #7
![stephanar](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/137/137440.jpg?1466737126)
- #8
Could you be more specific about this noise reduction jumper? Wiring on the Baja is very different, wires come from the s1 and and connections on the switch are not the same..Check your 4-way switch has the 'extra noise reduction jumper' on it that was identified on the old Phostenix wiring diagram.
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![Adagietto](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/112/112671.jpg?1624079773)
- #9
Mine too. Fingers crossed as I don't want to change it.Mine is stock (still has the S-1) and is very quiet.
![VaughnC](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/0/26.jpg?1464573712)
- #10
The one thing I would check though (with an ohm meter) is to make sure the bridge plate is connected to the circuit common by checking the resistance between the bridge plate and the control plate. It should be very close to a short circuit or 0 ohms.
I tried shielding guitars in the past and didn't feel it was worth the effort. One thing I noticed is loss of sparkle in the top end. And while the shielding helped a little with buzzy type noises, it did nothing for hum.
However, you might gain something by replacing the 2 output jack wires with a single shielded cable as this is one of the longer "antenna" wires than can pick up noise. And you can install one of those improved, screw-in ElectroSocket output jacks while you're at it.
![stephanar](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/137/137440.jpg?1466737126)
- #11
Before going for a full rewiring job I decided to shield the cavities with copper foil. Also twisted the pickup and jack wires.
Guitar is a lot quieter now, but I think a little of the top end is gone. Could just be my mind playing tricks. Guitar still sounds awesome.
![stephanar](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/137/137440.jpg?1466737126)
- #12
Today I decided to remove the shielding from the neck pickup and it really got its highs back. Tried to compare as closely as possible since I had to remove the pickup.
A little noise came back but I guess it's a good compromise. Looks like the shielding inside the control cavity did most of the job.
![Baxtercat](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/62/62772.jpg?1432129485)
- #13
re-quoted fr wisdom.The one thing I would check though (with an ohm meter) is to make sure the bridge plate is connected to the circuit common by checking the resistance between the bridge plate and the control plate. It should be very close to a short circuit or 0 ohms.
Sometimes Tele bridges [chrome esp] don't ground with the lil underneath wire [because of oxidation?].
Pinching the stripped end under the head of a bridge screw often helps make a better connection.
![bluesoul](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/57/57223.jpg?1467320282)
- #14
What kind of noise?I have this Baja tele for almost 2 years now. Factory wiring is a mess. Already did a search on various forums and seems people have mixed results dealing with this issue.
I have strats here and the noise lvl on the tele is definitely higher.
Some people say s1 is the culprit, other say its the wiring, people change it completely with mixed results.
I'm thinking about going with a new wiring harness with a 4 way switch (without s1) + copper shielding under pickups and control cavity. Think it can't get better than that, but if it won't work there's no purpose to spend this money.
What you guys say?
My Baja needed the plastic pickguard gone and tossed....static was driving me crazy. Bakelite ended the frustration. Other than that it is now normal for a tele.
![vortexxxx](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/61/61088.jpg?1464752672)
- #15
Although I dont know if this is the OPs problem, this is a very good and common mod for the Baja. It's the only mod on mine. The guards that come with them sometimes also distort. Bakelite guards are really nice compared to plastic.What kind of noise?
My Baja needed the plastic pickguard gone and tossed....static was driving me crazy. Bakelite ended the frustration. Other than that it is now normal for a tele.
![haslar](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/3/3547.jpg?1213893761)
- #16
I replaced the pickups with Area noiseless pickups, as well as the wiring harness & switch for a classic 3-way.
Problem solved.
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- #17
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- #18
![Adagietto](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/112/112671.jpg?1624079773)
- #19
![stephanar](https://www.thegearpage.net/board/data/avatars/m/137/137440.jpg?1466737126)
- #20
Ok, this is something I've been thinking about. From what I've read they work better with non magnetic bridge plates, otherwise there'll be some noise (confirmed by Dimarzio on an email I sent them). Can you help me on that? What's your experience?The Baja I used to own was hum city.
I replaced the pickups with Area noiseless pickups, as well as the wiring harness & switch for a classic 3-way.
Problem solved.
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